We did this a few weeks ago...here's an update of how some of our other candidates from last year are doing in their new digs:
Kliff Kingsbury, TTech
7-1 (losing a close game to OSU right now)
Dave Doeren, NCState
Butch Jones, Tennessee
4-4 (currently losing big to Mizzou)
1-8 (almost beat 'Zona this week)
With the exception of Kinsbury, they are still struggling to implement their systems...even those who took over programs that were in a much better place and had MUCH softer schedules. There is no apples-to-apples comparison, obviously...let's hope weaker competition helps Purdue show a bit of a pulse in the next few weeks. We could all use a little positivity around the program right about now.
So how much of a difference did it make to their former programs when these guys headed elsewhere?
9-0 #21 in the nation
La. Tech (Dykes)
Kent State (Hazell)
Not sure what the point of this is...but I can tell you that what Hazell did at KSU wasn't just luck...and it was pretty amazing.
I'm pretty pissed at what I've been watching this season in God's country just like you...but I haven't given up; hope the same goes for you. It's still damned early in the Hazell era, Boilers. BUT, Purdue's head coach needs to get some of that good juju flowing among the fanbase.
Boilerbloodline I couldn't have said any better. There's a reason why coach tiller couldn't stand that waste of space athlectic director we call morgan burke
Just to be sure we're all on the same page, are some of you suggesting that we should demand instant, 100% results in Hazell's first season? With the same broken team that couldn't achieve results last year? I hope and pray my employer doesn't hold me to those standards. I mean, I'm damn good at what I do but I am not a freaking genie. I doubt any of you are either. Yes, losing sucks, but patience and recruiting are the only way out of this.
I'm going to say it, I am now not sure Coach Hazell can win at Purdue. The biggest reasons being player belief and bad assistant coach hiring. The current players no longer believe they can even compete. This will carry over to next season because Coach Hazell truly has failed to put the correct pieces in place to make enough plays to compete and keep team morale up. Welcome to the land of laughable losses and no student section. Thank you Morgan Burke. I daydream of you ripping your office apart knowing your legacy here is of being a tight ass and a loser.
As all (I think) of the Boiler fans feel this season has been a disaster, I am not quite ready to 'fire' Hazell. However, I do expect to seem some small (better than that would be appreciated) improvement in the outcome of the last 4 games of this season. With the current situation I don't expect any more.
Next year 2014 I would expect us to move up somewhere near the middle of our division and then become more of a contender in 2015.
As a Purdue fan of FB & BB since first seeing an inter-squad BB game about 1946 as a youngster I have been through a lot of disappointments.
As much as I'd like to say that things will improve next season and in the future I just don't believe it will happen. I wasn't a huge fan of this coaching hire from the very start. I think we really hired the wrong coach for the job to overhaul this program from top to bottom. Call me a bad fan for not giving coach Hazell a chance when he just started but it is just my opinion that this guy isn't gonna be able to do the job. We improve next year but we will be just as mediocre as we were when Hopeless called the shots. I love my team just as much as anyone else but I'm just tired of bottom feeding in the big ten every season.Coach Hazell isn't our guy.
Remember the poster: "reshape. Rebuild. Return." This is a three year poster. Hazell has to reshape this program. Tearing anything down to the studs or chassis is ugly. He has removed the old program and installed his new parts. Now he has to rebuild the roster to match. I'm going to "pardon the dust" and give him some time.
One thing to keep in mind is that there was a point earlier in the season when it looked like Purdue was feet and ankles below the rest of the conference. Now, there are three winless teams, and although the others have had reasonably close calls, well, suddenly that 14-0 loss in East Lansing doesn't look as bad as other teams have done there. Purdue doesn't get a shot at the Wildcats, but Illinois will be visiting Purdue, and Tim Beckman looks like he's determined not to build anything in Champaign. Heck, even IU laid a giant egg today, at home no less. (Minnesota's not that good.) Their offense is really good, but Minnesota held them to 20 points through three quarters.
This is still, in many ways, a season to forget, but at least it won't be Big Eleven, Little One.
Keep your head up???
All I know is Burke better consider selling booz if he expects ANYONE to show up next year.
@CaryNW87 I think we're all in agreement that we didn't expect this team to win a Rose Bowl or anything, but I sorta expected this team to at least compete and be able to put some kind of points on the board each week. We're simply not even doing that.
But I do agree that we can't fire him after one year, regardless of the W-L record. He needs to show that he can recruit like a beast and get some talent in the Furnace. If we're seeing 1-7 or 0-8 this time next year... I *do* think that Hazell needs to look long and hard at Shoop's continued employment...
@BoilerBloodline the student section was the only section that wasnt completely overrun with red this past weeked
@BoilermakerInBamaCountry Who was your guy?
I thought we should have went for kingsbury a little more than we did. What we should have done was dropped Hopeless 2 seasons ago and picked up Mike Leech. I miss the really explosive offenses during the Tiller years. Coach Hazell's offense isn't explosive enough to be among our league's elite. Purdue has the offensive culture of passing the ball, changing our whole culture is not the key to our success. High powered spread vertical offenses and strong linebacker play on defense is the key to success for our team in my opinion.